Re: Google's Chrome Team might Blacklist Nouveau on Chromium

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I don't think any nouveau dev would disagree with the choice for a software rendered browser over an unreliable browser. Insofar I still count as a nouveau dev, I'll back this decision because it benefits user experience.
What is disappointing though is that when I perform a search on our bug tracker (see [0] and [1]), I find precisely _one_ relevant bug. Shame on us for not following up on that one, but shame on the Chrome developers to decide they'd rather blacklist a driver than publicly* reach out and ask what's going on. Blacklisting 3D rendering on nouveau isn't going to fix nouveau, it's a short-term improvement with no long term prospect.

On 26/09/18 11:25, Megaf wrote:
Well, I agree with them.
Nouveau is extremely unstable on my MacBook Pro with Nvidia 320M, freezing all the time and draining a lot of battery.
Performance wise is not too bad tho.
There's plenty of reported bugs already around the web if someone wants to investigate it.
Don't take this as personal criticism, I really appreciate the fact that you reach out and bring this to our attention. What I do wish to point out to anyone is that there are too many projects with too many bug trackers out there to track all of them. In reality nouveau devs monitor the nouveau bugtracker [2], and if you're lucky the tracker of their favourite distro. I don't believe it's feasible to expect driver devs to track more - we're already grossly under"staffed". Sure, Chrome is a popular piece of software, but so is Firefox, LibreOffice, VirtualBox, Wine, Dolphin, Gnome Shell etc. etc... So my advice to anyone: if you want bugs actually fixed in nouveau, do your civil duty and file them in the nouveau bugtracker.

Roy

[0] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&component=Driver%2Fnouveau&product=xorg&query_format=advanced&short_desc=chrome&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr
[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&component=Drivers%2FDRI%2Fnouveau&product=Mesa&query_format=advanced&short_desc=chrome&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr
[2] https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/

* I'm aware that a sizeable portion of the workforce behind nouveau is currently employed by Red Hat. What happens behind their scenes is unknown to me and other contributors...

Thanks
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 04:06, Matthew Ary <matthewj.c.ary@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I thought you all would like to know that Google considers Nouveau to be unstable and is now actively considering blacklisting. Please see this issue on their issue tracker.

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