Re: Asus N53 USB WiFi Driver porting

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On 2014-12-18 01:17 PM, Jeff Haran wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kernelnewbies-bounces+jeff.haran=citrix.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:kernelnewbies-bounces+jeff.haran=citrix.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of nick
>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:50 AM
>> To: Greg KH; Abhishek Sharma
>> Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@xxxxxx; santy30@xxxxxxxxx; Abhishek Sharma; Kernel
>> Newbies
>> Subject: Re: Asus N53 USB WiFi Driver porting
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-12-18 11:26 AM, Greg KH wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 08:18:24PM +0530, Abhishek Sharma wrote:
>>>> Hi Valdis,
>>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>> I do not want to change kernel.
>>>
>>> "do not want to" is very different from "applications can not be
>>> ported to newer kernels".
>>>
>>> Please realize that the Linux kernel developers have spent the last
>>> decade ensuring that you should be able to update to the latest kernel
>>> version with no problems or changes needed in your applications.  Lots
>>> of companies now realize this and have no problem updating to a newer
>>> kernel, while running their old applications.
>>>
>>> So please don't spread misinformation about how applications will
>>> break with new kernel versions, that is almost always not a true statement.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> greg k-h
>>>
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>> Abhishek,
>> I am to agree with Greg KH here. The kernel community does a very good job
>> of not breaking APIs for applications or regressions. Linus also has openly stated
>> he will not accept any patches in the main line kernel tree if they break user
>> space so you should be fine. Further more to be honest I am very impressed
>> with the amount of how little APIs or regressions we get compared to the
>> amount of commits. Abhishek, in addition this seems more like you don't know
>> or are afraid of compiling the kernel over anything else. If you want post lsmod
>> output from your system so I can help teach you how to build the kernel
>> correctly.
>> Nick
> 
> If it's a custom board, bringing up new kernel versions can be a quite daunting task that the management of engineering organizations is more often than not loathe to undertake. It can take a lot of education to convince them that the pain and unpredictable development schedule hit of a kernel upgrade is more than compensated for by the increases in stability and features one gets when one goes through the process.
> 
> Jeff Haran
> 
Jeff,
You are a 100% correct. I am assuming it wasn't a custom board but if it is them, you are right it's a lot of engineering work and time.
Nick 

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