On 19 November 2010 19:12, Bond <jamesbond.2k.g@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Alison Chaiken <alchaiken@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Anuz, I think your document is right on-target. Â ÂI would just add, >> "Don't ask for help with basic C programming." Â ÂYes, there are lots >> of idioms in the kernel that are not found elsewhere in C, and asking >> about those is on-topic, but questioners should not (intentionally) >> ask questions that will be answered by consulting K&R. I totally agree with Alison's reply. This is not a place to discuss general / beginner C programming topics, and we should make sure this guide makes that clear. > It would be a difficult task to mention what structures or data types > occur again and again which are not present in K &R to make a wiki > page on kernelnewbies and point to it but this would be worth than > making a lecture note and when some one asks some question which is a > common fault then give them a 5 page lecture to read that doc. > I do not see any value in such a doc most of the people would be happy > with a guide of how to ask questions smart way. So are you agreeing or disagreeing with Anuz's (cool) document and Alison's suggestion? I have seen this kind of problem in another mailing list, and the issue seems to be more of a language barrier than technical understanding of the topic. I doubt any FAQ or lecture will help in that situation, unless there are translations to other languages. I like so far of what I've read of Anuz's document - though it could be tidied up so that you don't have to turn on word-wrapping to be able to read it. >> Also, readers should not ask questions relevant to particular boards >> or drivers. Â Those questions should be asked (if at all) on >> specialist mailing lists. > If I am aware of what I am asking why would I be a kernel newbie. Knowing what you are asking is not the same as knowing the answer, is it? And knowing the answer would not mean you are no longer a kernel newbie. > Why don't you make relevant pages to point to some guides like crashcourse.ca > and some simple things which make a newbie a safer dive rather than > saying him to jump to I2C and discuss some thing. > Sorry if I am too harsh here but I mean it. I don't understand what you mean here. This is not supposed to be a tutorial that teaches you kernel topics - this is a guide on how to conduct yourself on a public, archived mailing list on the topic of kernel programming. > -- > Most of the free documentation and kernel books are not worth reading. Does your signature qualify as ironic? :) Regards, Srdjan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send an email with "unsubscribe kernelnewbies" to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxx Please read the FAQ at http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ