Hello, During testing several tunnel scenarios, I noticed a problematic behaviour of IPV4 conntrack. BUG: IPv4 conntrack reassembles forwarded packets ================================================= Conntrack needs to reassemble fragments in order to have complete packets for rule matching. However the IPv4 stack should not change forwarded packets if not explicitely told to do so. Unwanted reassembly can even lead to packet loss. Consider the following setup: +--------+ +---------+ +--------+ |Router A|-------|Wanrouter|-------|Router B| | |.IPIP..| |..IPIP.| | +--------+ +---------+ +--------+ / mtu 1400 \ / \ +--------+ +--------+ |Client A| |Client B| | | | | +--------+ +--------+ Router A and Router B use IPIP tunnel interfaces to tunnel traffic between Client A and Client B over WAN. Wanrouter has MTU 1400 set on its interfaces. Detailed setup for Router A --------------------------- Interfaces: eth0: 10.2.2.1/24 eth1: 192.168.10.1/24 ipip0: No IP address, local 10.2.2.1 remote 10.4.4.1 Routes: 192.168.20.0/24 dev ipip0 (192.168.20.0/24 is subnet of Client B) 10.4.4.1 via 10.2.2.254 (Router B via Wanrouter) No iptables rules at all. Detailed setup for Router B --------------------------- Interfaces: eth0: 10.4.4.1/24 eth1: 192.168.20.1/24 ipip0: No IP address, local 10.4.4.1 remote 10.2.2.1 Routes: 192.168.10.0/24 dev ipip0 (192.168.10.0/24 is subnet of Client A) 10.2.2.1 via 10.4.4.254 (Router A via Wanrouter) No iptables rules at all. Path MTU discovery ------------------ Running tracepath from Client A to Client B shows PMTU discovery is working as expected: clienta:~# tracepath 192.168.20.2 1?: [LOCALHOST] pmtu 1500 1: 192.168.10.1 0.867ms 1: 192.168.10.1 0.302ms 2: 192.168.10.1 0.312ms pmtu 1480 2: no reply 3: 192.168.10.1 0.510ms pmtu 1380 3: 192.168.20.2 2.320ms reached Resume: pmtu 1380 hops 3 back 3 Router A has learned PMTU (1400) to Router B from Wanrouter. Client A has learned PMTU (1400 - IPIP overhead = 1380) to Client B from Router A. Send large UDP packet --------------------- Now we send a 1400 bytes UDP packet from Client A to Client B: clienta:~# head -c1400 /dev/zero | tr "\000" "a" | nc -u 192.168.20.2 5000 The IPv4 stack on Client A already knows the PMTU to Client B, so the UDP packet is sent as two fragments (1380 + 20). Router A forwards the fragments between eth1 and ipip0. The fragments fit into the tunnel and reach their destination. Adding conntrack iptables rule ==> packet loss ---------------------------------------------- Now on Router A the following iptables rule is added: routera:~# iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m state \ --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT When sending the large UDP packet again, Router A now reassembles the fragments before routing the packet over ipip0. The resulting IPIP packet is too big (1400) for the tunnel PMTU (1380) to Router B, it is dropped on Router A before sending. Client A cannot do anything to fix this, because it already respects the PMTU (1380) to Client B and sends fragments fitting into it. The problem also happens when using IPSec tunnels with XFRM interfaces (this is the actual use case, the setup above just uses IPIP for simplicity). IPv6 does it right ------------------ When testing a similar setup with IPv6 and ip6tnl interfaces, the conntrack ip6tables rule does not affect the forwarded UDP fragments. Though reassembly takes place for conntrack, the reassembled packet is not forwarded. So the solution would be making IPv4 behaving like IPv6, using reassembly for conntrack reasons *only* and not forwarding the reassembly result but the original fragments. Regards, Christian Perle -- Christian Perle Senior Berater / Senior Consultant Netzwerk- und Client-Sicherheit / Network & Client Security Öffentliche Auftraggeber / Public Authorities secunet Security Networks AG Tel.: +49 201 54 54-3533, Fax: +49 201 54 54-1323 E-Mail: christian.perle@xxxxxxxxxxx Ammonstraße 74, 01067 Dresden, Deutschland www.secunet.com secunet Security Networks AG Sitz: Kurfürstenstraße 58, 45138 Essen, Deutschland Amtsgericht Essen HRB 13615 Vorstand: Axel Deininger (Vors.), Torsten Henn, Dr. Kai Martius, Thomas Pleines Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Ralf Wintergerst