Alessandro Vesely <vesely@xxxxxxx> writes: > On Thu 14/Nov/2019 04:12:46 +0100 Florian Westphal wrote: >> Alessandro Vesely <vesely@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> [...] >>> There is a user space filter reading queued packets and issuing verdicts. >>> It is linked to libnetfilter_queue, libnfnetlink and libmnl. >>> Does automatic translation work fine in this case? >> >> It has nothing to do with translation, userspace doesn't care, its the >> same interface. > > So it shouldn't even be needed to maintain alternatives like Debian does, e.g.: > > # update-alternatives --set iptables /usr/sbin/iptables-nft > vs > # update-alternatives --set iptables /usr/sbin/iptables-legacy nft doesn't support some things (e.g. -j TARPIT from xtables-addons-dkms). iptables-legacy lets you continue using those things. You also need the -legacy tools to inspect firewall rules created by e.g. systemd-nspawn for systemd containers. Here is an example system with a single nft rule AND a single legacy rule created by systemd: root@not-omega:~# iptables-save # Warning: iptables-legacy tables present, use iptables-legacy-save to see them root@not-omega:~# iptables-legacy-save # Generated by iptables-save v1.8.3 on Mon Nov 18 11:48:26 2019 *nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT [111429:8069436] :INPUT ACCEPT [111423:8067363] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [38839:3454394] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [38837:3454330] -A POSTROUTING -s 10.194.71.0/24 -j MASQUERADE COMMIT # Completed on Mon Nov 18 11:48:26 2019 root@not-omega:~# nft list ruleset table inet filter { chain input { type filter hook input priority filter; policy accept; counter packets 9 bytes 632 continue comment "example rule that does nothing" } chain forward { type filter hook forward priority filter; policy accept; } chain output { type filter hook output priority filter; policy accept; } } PS: I'm 95% sure I've seen iptables-restore silently fail to load SOME rules leaving me with a wrong ruleset instead of a right ruleset or the existing ruleset. And then iptables-legacy-restore worked fine. (I'd give the actual code, but it was a few weeks ago and I don't have it handy.)