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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:08, Thomas Jacob <jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 15:57 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby (R12y) wrote:
>> > Is there a problem?
>>
>> Iptables rules became user friendly! ;-)
>
> I cannot leave that unreplied. I'd really like to know of a system which
> offers the same or better fine grained control and so many features
> which is significantly more user friendly than iptables ;-)
>
> The complexity of iptables stems for the most part from the complexity
> of the problem at hand. Sure you can hide that complexity behind fancy
> web front ends and there are plenty of those for iptables, in fact, the
> firewall configurations in many consumer router boxes today are just
> that.
>
> But doing this also takes away most of the power of iptables or indeed
> any other sophisticated firewalling system, and being reduced to that
> would be a terrible thing for me at least ;)
>
> In summary, iptables is appropriately user friendly for its feature set,
> and if you don't need most of that feature set, simply use a front end
> instead.
>
>     Thomas

Agreed.  It's just lists of if-match-then-act rules.  iptables is
already quite easy and simple.  How could it be any simpler?  I can
imagine very little that one could remove or change without reducing
functionality.  A good example would be -j REJECT in -t nat, and
that's already been resolved.  It might be nice to merge ip and eb,
and as I understand, that work is already under way.
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