Ccing Patrick and adding Reference-Hdr to [2] - questions to old questions :) On Apr 11 2007 09:52, Fred Trotter wrote: > > I was told to write here about getting the time module > included "upstream". I hope that someone here might be able to > educate me on the process for getting these things done. I understand > that there are many iptables modules and that some are included by > default while others are not. There are only a few cases why a maintainer decides against: (1) it's a hack (best example: ipt_ROUTE) (2) it's unmaintained (now that's strange) (3) violates coding style (happens often) (4) not enough interest on the users' sides (gotta change that) Ask nicely (see [1],[2]), and maybe things get rolling (or not). [1] http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20061206.204842.c1c8628a.en.html [2] http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20061207.030828.0d81b372.en.html Though that leaves me puzzled why connlimit has not gone in yet (it all simplifies maintenance so much IMO). BTW, how about it? > The problem is that the iptables userspace project documents > the time modules as though it is included, but at least in Fedora it > is not by default. They hold that they will not include it until it is > included "upstream", they indicated that you would be able to tell me > how to get it included "upstream". iptables is not the same as netfilter (= the kernel part). This is perhaps the biggest mystery. Why include something in iptables when it is not in the kernel. But that's how things currently are: - source files are in iptables - some get compiled because they are listed in the "always-y"-style line in the Makefile, hence their manpage part will show up in `man iptables`, but you cannot effectively use them because the kernel module is missing. Jan --