Hi, I tried this request on the devel list but I guess from the silence it was off-topic. I was told to write here about getting the time module included "upstream". I hope that someone here might be able to educate me on the process for getting these things done. I understand that there are many iptables modules and that some are included by default while others are not. The problem is that the iptables userspace project documents the time modules as though it is included, but at least in Fedora it is not by default. They hold that they will not include it until it is included "upstream", they indicated that you would be able to tell me how to get it included "upstream". I am confused as to why the man pages reference functionality that seems to be not typically turned on by default. Why is the man page "upstream" but not the module? I do not say this to accuse, I want to understand so that I can help fix this. It seems to me that either the man pages should not mention the module or the module should typically be included. Does this problem impact other documented modules that are not actually included "upstream"? Here is the link to original discussion. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=233475 Regards, -FT -- Fred Trotter http://www.fredtrotter.com