I have several dorm firewalls with nearly 250 users behind each. I nat the inside ip's using netmap. this has been up and running for 6 months and for the inside users its working fine. for the most part I dont want connections orginating from the outside and netmap seems to be perventing this. However I now have an application that needs to be able to orginate a stream from the outside to any inside ip( CopySense ). ime really not shure: if netmap alone should block incomming connections ? how to go about allowing them? from what i see the folling is a start: existing netmap lines on one router: Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 6 packets, 300 bytes) 362 20370 NETMAP all -- * * 10.0.20.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 205.133.141.0/24 75 4208 NETMAP all -- * * 10.0.21.0/25 0.0.0.0/0 205.133.140.0/25 223 10925 NETMAP all -- * * 10.0.22.0/25 0.0.0.0/0 205.133.140.128/25 to allow the outside connection for my laptop this works: Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 1620 packets, 92093 bytes) target prot opt in out source destination DNAT all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 205.133.141.42 to:10.0.20.42 ile tighten up that rule once i get it working ;-) however I neet to allow that rule to work for all 255 ip's and i cant seem to get the syntax right ??? Stephen Beck, Marietta College, 740-376-4366