if no one has submitted an answer its probably due to the fact that i like many network and system admin's prefer behavior described. messenging services and the like are ripe with stuff like sql injection, addy harvesting, session hijax,,,way to buggy to leave connected w/out checks. glad you are frustrated - probably not the saftest thing to do. -----Original Message----- From: netfilter-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:netfilter-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Peter Marshall Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:25 AM To: netfilter Subject: another msn question This has been asked before by many ... but I am asking again incase someone has actually found a solution ... Is there a way to keep msn messenger from constantly disconnecting behind nat (when multiple users are using it of course). Frustrated msn user.