Please note this is a cross post... It seems to have impact to all three lists. I have found the source of my problem and hope that others will not have it. Here is the scenario: At two locations I have two firewall boxes running POPTOP and PPTP-CLIENT. They work great when any XP box connects to them. When server "A" tries to connect to server "B" it will do so fine for the first connection. Subsequent connections fail until I restart POPTOP on the server. I have found that it is related to the ip_nat_pptp module being loaded. In our case we do not NAT the PPTP server but for some reason we loaded the module anyways on the client. I assume the module works fine for NAT's PPTP servers but we don't use the functionality. If you do load the module on the firewall you can accept PPTP connections just fine but you cannot make reliable outgoing FTP connections from the firewall. Client behind the firewall have no problem. I'm not sure if this is designed functionality, limitation or a bug. Anyways, unloading this module from the server initiating the PPTP connection has fixed my dreaded problem. Gary Smith