On Tuesday 13 July 2004 11:28 pm, Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN wrote: > dick, > > i beg to differ. > > i must concur strongly with antony. > > if you cripple icmp, your networks will break... Maybe not immediately :) Maybe only when something else start to go awry...? Antony. PS: Did you ever expand on your reasons for saying "do not i repeat...do not allow inbound ntp with a source port above the root ports"? Several people here (including myself) were interested to know more about this... -- Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always overcome with a "methodology" or on a schedule. - Damian Conway, Perl God Please reply to the list; please don't CC me.