On Wednesday 30 June 2004 7:46 pm, Peter Marshall wrote: > yes it does. Thank you very much. I have been looking for an explanation > like that on the net. :) > > Do you have a link to where this netfilter documentation is ? These might help fill in a few more details: http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html#USERLANDSTATES http://www.sns.ias.edu/~jns/security/iptables/iptables_conntrack.html Antony. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Antony Stone" <Antony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "netfilter" <netfilter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: track bandwith used > > On Wednesday 30 June 2004 5:51 pm, Peter Marshall wrote: > > You could make a connection out to a remote server. That remote server > > might try to make a connection back to us that has nothing to do with the > > reason we connected to them. > > Such a connection would not be regarded as RELATED by the netfilter code. > > > But the server may see it as related and allow it. > > I think you should read about netfilter's definition of RELATED. It > doesn't > just mean "any packet which comes back from an IP address we're already > talking to". > > For example, I said that FTP data connections were RELATED to the FTP > control > connection - but that is only if you have loaded the FTP Conntrack Helper > module, or compiled FTP Conntrack support into your kernel. That helper > is what RELATEs the two parts of FTP together in netfilter. > > Basically, if you don't have a helper module which understands why a > connection should be RELATED to another one, then it won't be. > > Arbitrary packets from IP addresses which happen to be part of an > ESTABLISHED > connection don't count - they will be seen as NEW incoming connections, and > make their own way through your ruleset (until they are persumably > DROPped), having no assiciation whatever to anything else which may be in > your connection tracking table. > > Hope this clarifies things? > > Regards, > > Antony. -- The truth is rarely pure, and never simple. - Oscar Wilde Please reply to the list; please don't CC me.