John, I also need to to route pptp traffic through a box with recent kernel revisions (2.4.20-18.7 for me at the moment). The linux box is neither the pptp client nor server. It's just a router/NAT. Would you be so kind as to forward anything you might find out over to me? Once I know your address, I'll do the same. (sorry for the "me too" post on the list, but I subscribed to the group after your posting, and the archive masks out email addresses.) A couple questions: . Am I correct in understanding that there are two pptp patches out there? One against the latest netfilter sources, and the John Hardin/Brian Kushak patch against earlier revisions? . Is the first one the patch-o-matic extra/pptp-conntrack-nat.patch? . You said Brian Kushak's 2.4.19 patch won't work against 2.4.21. Do you simply mean that patch reported errors, or have you looked into what it would take to port the patch to recent kernels? I've taken a quick look through it and saw the code has been redesigned in some spots, so it's not a simple cut-and-paste job. If it's already known to be a lost cause, then I won't waste any more time looking at it. . Your post said you built 2.4.21 netfilter with pptp support. I guess this refers back to my first question. Are you referring to the pptp-conntrack-nat.patch? Once I get my head screwed on straight about all this stuff, and figure out what ground's already been covered, maybe we can figure out how to get it to work for both of us. thanks