I'm gonna be implimenting a VPN between two offices. Both gateways being the Firewall also. Which uses Netfilter I'm looking for secure straight forward routable setup and 100% compatability with netfilter ie not pptp. It also has to be open source. I know this isn't a vpn group but I figured you would have valuable input. Thanks Right now I'm looking at freeswan Rowan Reid Job Captain, Systems Administrator STUDIO 3 ARCHITECTS 909 982 1717