On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 11:18:37AM +0000, Puustinen, Ismo wrote: > On Fri, 2017-05-05 at 12:49 +0200, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote: > > This does not integrate at all into the scripting features we have in > > > > nftables. We don't want people to use bash (or like) shell scripts > > anymore, they are bad, they break atomicity for us. We should extend > > native nftables scripting capabilities to support what user need, > > natively. Look, this will not work with nft -i either... > > > > And this also will not work for robots using incremental updates via > > nft -f. And we very much want to support such transaction like > > scheme, > > ie. place a bunch of incremental updates in one single file and apply > > that in one single transaction. > > > > This is just covering one very specific usecase, that is, users have > > a > > quick way to delete the rule that just added. And we have better ways > > to achieve this, and that will work from all the scenarios that I > > described above. > > I would be interested in any documentation you might have concerning > the "better ways" of creating modular rulesets, that is, automatically > adding and deleting rules and rule groups. This is a real issue that > I'm currently struggling with. > > My use case is pretty simple: when a service is loaded, it also loads > the firewall rules associated with it. When a service is stopped, the > rules corresponding to the service are unloaded. There is no > interactive user present in the system. Would it be better if you do this programmatically? ie. from a library. Do you have some example code of how you're doing things there? > Having "nft add rule ..." return a rule handle would fix this, so I was > happy to see Phil's patches. But this is basically pushing nft to the domain of using non-native shell scripts. I guess you call several commands there in a row and that is defeating the existing commit protocol we have. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html