On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 02:27:52PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 02:23:10PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 05:08:27AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 11:38:34AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 02:48:38PM +0530, Vineet Gupta wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday 25 May 2016 09:27 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > > > For your example, but keeping the compiler in check: > > > > > > > > > > > > if (READ_ONCE(a)) > > > > > > WRITE_ONCE(b, 1); > > > > > > smp_rmb(); > > > > > > WRITE_ONCE(c, 2); > > > > > > > > So I think it example is broken. The store to @c is not in fact > > > > dependent on the condition of @a. > > > > > > At first glance, the compiler could pull the write to "c" above the > > > conditional, but the "memory" constraint in smp_rmb() prevents this. > > > From a hardware viewpoint, the write to "c" does depend on the "if", > > > as the conditional branch does precede that write in execution order. > > > > > > But yes, this is using smp_rmb() in a very strange way, if that is > > > what you are getting at. > > > > Well, the CPU could decide that the store to C happens either way around > > the branch. I'm not sure I'd rely on CPUs not being _that_ clever. > > > > test %a, $0 > > jnz 1f > > mov $1, %b > > 1: mov $2, %c > > > > Its not too much to ask the CPU to look ahead 2 instructions to figure > > out the store into c is going to happen unconditionally. > > > > I would really only rely on stores immediately dependent on the > > conditional. > > Ah, interrupts could observe the difference, which is your execution > order constraint. So yes, maybe. > > I'm still rather hesitant on this. Any info on Itanium? Again, I am reasonably sure that Power and ARM architectures guarantee to avoid excess cleverness on the part of the CPU in this case. Thanx, Paul -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
