Re: conntrack, idle TCP connection and keep-alives

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On Sun, 27 Oct 2013, Patrick McHardy wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 07:32:44PM +0000, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:17PM +0400, WGH wrote:
> > > On 27.10.2013 23:20, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:14:19PM +0100, Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> > > >> I think a single flag could be sufficient: if the timer in conntrack goes 
> > > >> off and the entry is in the ESTABLISHED state and this flag is not set, 
> > > >> then send a TCP keepalive packet and start the timer with a short timeout. 
> > > >> If we receive the reply packet, then the long ESTABLISHED timeout value 
> > > >> can be restored and the flag cleared.
> > > > Sure, I think we wouldn't even need that flag, we can just send the keepalive
> > > > and set a short timeout. If a RST is received, the connection is killed
> > > > anyway, otherwise it will be refreshed with the ESTABLISHED timeout.
> > > >
> > > > But we do need a timestamp value to pass PAWS.
> > > I believe you forgot the third scenario: neither ACK nor RST is received
> > > in reply.
> > 
> > Actually no, "... and set a short timeout ...".
> 
> Well, OK, we do need a flag to distinguish normal timeout from probe 
> timeout. But still I don't see how we can do this without increasing the 
> size of every conntrack by at least 4 bytes.

Yes, you're right: PAWS assumes all packets carry timestamps option, an 
option-less ACK isn't sufficient. And increasing every conntrack entry 
does seem too expensive when the application itself could send keep-alive 
packets.

Best regards,
Jozsef
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