Re: Xtables2 Netlink spec

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On Friday 2010-11-26 21:05, Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
>> >
>> >Why don't you lock the tables during dumping? That way the tables won't 
>> >change, whatever long time the dump takes. Snapshotting the table looks as 
>> >wasting memory and time.
>> 
>> For that to work, I would have to use a locking primitive that can be
>> held across returns to userspace, which leaves semaphores as the only
>> option and, ya, I didn't quite feel like using _that_. Also sounds a
>> bit like a killer if an admin cannot update a table just because he
>> forgot some dumper process in the background in suspended state. :-/
>
>There's already an internal mutex there (cb_mutex), to serialize dumping.
>(It's unfortunate that cb_mutex cannot be accessed, for other purposes.) 
>And the kernel->userspace messaging is asynchronous, so I think suspended 
>dumping process won't hurt: the messages will wait it the queue, that's 
>all.

It's not about serialization of dumps, but when a writer shows up:

- process A starts a read operation dump
- process A gets forgotten in whatever way
- process B tries to do a _write_ operation on the table

Locking writers out because a reader does not want to finish sounds bad.
Letting A not take a lock, A can get back a non-atomic snapshot.
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