Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> Eric W. Biederman wrote: >>> Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >>> >>>>>> Yet another set of per-namespace IDs along with CLONE_NEWXXX ones? >>>>>> I currently have a way to create all namespaces we have with one >>>>>> syscall. Why don't we have an ability to enter them all with one syscall? >>>>> The CLONE_NEWXXX series of bits has been an royal pain to work with, >>>>> and it appears to be unnecessary complications for no gain. >>>> That's the answer for the "Yet another set..." question. >>>> How about the "Why don't we have..." one? >>> I am not certain which question you are asking: >>> >>> Why don't we have an ability to enter all namespaces with one syscall >>> invocation? >> Exactly. Please add at least the NSTYPE_NSPROXY or whatever, that will >> pin all namespaces of a given pid from the very beginning. > > For nsfd(2) that is doable. At least for now setns can't restore it. Thanks. What's the problem with setns? >>> Why don't we have a syscall that allows us to enter every namespace? >> This one is done in the patch, no? >> >> Although the approach is OK for me, there's one design issue, that came >> up to my mind recently: can we use this fd to wail for a namespace to >> stop? I currently don't see this ability, but this is something I require >> badly. > > I have designed these file descriptors to pin the namespaces, so > waiting for them to exit isn't something they can do now. It makes a > lot of sense to have similar ones that take weak references to the namespaces > that we can use to wait for a namespace to exit. Yes, I saw this from patches. Eric, I'd very much appreciate if we workout a solution that will allow us to kill two birds with one stone. I do not want to invent yet another bunch of system calls for "taking weak reference". As a "brain storm" start up. Can we use inotify/dnotify for this? Or maybe we should better equip the nsfd call with flags argument and add a flag for weak reference? In that case - how shall we get a notification about namespace is dead? With poll? Maybe worth making the sys_close return only when the namespace is dead (by providing a proper ->release callback of a file)? > Eric > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html