Re: [PATCH] MIPS: Display CPU byteorder in /proc/cpuinfo

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On 01/27/2015 08:15 AM, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, David Daney wrote:

   Well, read(2), write(2) and similar calls operate on byte streams, these
are endianness agnostic (like the text of this e-mail for example is --
it's stored in memory of a byte-addressed computer the same way regardless
of its processor's endianness).

This is precisely the point I was attempting to make.  What you say here is
*not* correct with respect to MIPS as specified in the architecture reference
mentioned above.  The byte streams are scrambled up when viewed from contexts
of opposite endianness.

Byte streams are *not* endian agnostic, but aligned 64-bit loads and stores
are.

It is bizarre, and perhaps almost mind bending, but that seems to be how it is
specified.  Certainly the OCTEON implementation works this way.

  Well, I think this observation:

"2.2.2.2 Memory Operation Functions

"Regardless of byte ordering (big- or little-endian), the address of a
halfword, word, or doubleword is the smallest byte address of the bytes
that form the object.  For big-endian ordering this is the
most-significant byte; for a little-endian ordering this is the
least-significant byte."

contradicts your claim [...]

One can argue about the meaning of the text in the reference manual. But in the end, the behavior of real processors is what we are forced to deal with.

In the case of all existing OCTEON processors, there is no Status[RE] bit, but you can switch the endianess of the entire CPU under software control. I am really making statements based on how they actually work, not assertions about the meaning of the specification. However, I do believe that this is what is specified.

If you have access to processors with a working Status[RE] bit, you could empirically determine how they work.

David Daney





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