linux-mips@oss.sgi.com: Thank you all for your replies. :-) Hartvig Ekner <hartvige@mips.com> wrote: >> 2. What is the preferred host OS... > We use Linux/x86 for kernel compiles, Which Linux distribution does MIPS use? Since I'm going to be working on an Atlas board using software from MIPS, I would like to match things up exactly. As an aside, is anybody using a VMware virtual machine for their development host? > and native compile for apps. OK that sounds like a safe bet. >> 3. What is the preferred toolchain... > This is what we use for cross Kernel compiles (toolchain from oss): > > /home/hartvige> gcc -v > Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.96/specs > gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-85) Hmmm. That looks like a native i386 compiler. I'm surprised its not something like "mips-elf-gcc". I'll assume the cross-compile toolchain was built per http://oss.sgi.com/mips/mips-howto.html section 10. >> 4. Is MIPS Linux self-hosted? > Yes. Even without workstations, you could use MIPS or Algo development > boards for self-hosted development (which is what we do - primarily > Malta boards). Good. :-) >> 5. Can you do native development on MIPS Linux? > Yes. Good. :-) >> 6. Does MIPS Linux support sound (oss or alsa) on any platform? >> Does it support sound on MIPS Atlas? > Yes. Plug in a Creative SB card, based on the Ensoniq chip and > enable the es1371.c in the kernel compile. Works both LE & BE, and > with apps like madplay (mp3) and mplayer (mpeg4). Great! :-) Florian Lohoff <flo@rfc822.org> wrote: >> 1. Is there a reason why SourceForge isn't being used for the MIPS >> Linux project? > The Linux-mips project is much older than sourceforge and looking at > the history of hyped venture capital companys does not really give a > good feeling about using sourceforge. Personally spoken i dont like > sourceforge - For most cases its just too bloated and working for ISPs > its not a problem to get some public accesible ftp/web/cvs space. OK I've used SourceForge as a software consumer and liked it. I just received their approval for an GPL'd Perl utility I wrote ("dirdiff"). >> 4. Is MIPS Linux self-hosted? > Definitly Good. :-) >> 5. Can you do native development on MIPS Linux? > Yep - The Debian autobuilder run native on little and big endian. Hmmm. Do you mean GNU autoconf running natively on MIPS, or something running on a Debian x86 host, or something else? >> 6. Does MIPS Linux support sound (oss or alsa) on any platform? Does >> it support sound on MIPS Atlas? > Somme rumors about Indy/Indigo2 HAL support have been heard. OK > The problem with some sourceforge trees and the split up information > is that like you already experienced is a real problem for Linux-mips > as there is no "source of the only wisdom". I dont like that tree- > forking etc. Either build your stuff clean - ready for inclusion - > or just drop the tree under the table as a big bad ugly hack. OK Adrian Schroeter <adrian@suse.de> wrote: >>> 6. Does MIPS Linux support sound (oss or alsa) on any platform? >>> Does it support sound on MIPS Atlas? >> Some rumors about Indy/Indigo2 HAL support have been heard. > oss works for me here on Indy/Indigo2. The arts drivers seems to be > too outdated atm. OK Leo Przybylski <leop@engr.arizona.edu> wrote: > Well, all Linux/MIPS stuff on on oss.sgi.com is maintained largely by > Ralf Baechle who is also contributor to numerous Linux/MIPS projects > on sourceforge. As far as I know he is also a huge part of the > sourceforge Linux/MIPS. You may have noticed that Bradley D. LaRonde > is also a huge contributor. > > You have probably guessed that all the projects on sourceforge > regarding linux mips are related by the maintainers and contributors. > Most of the code is being contributed to sourceforge, oss.sgi.com, > debian, redhat and so on. When everyone has their own toolchains, > roots and kernels it's hard to keep them in their own repositories. > oss.sgi.com has tried largely to do this though which is why it is a > good place to start. The ftp site carries debian and redhat binaries, > patches, etc... There's also the linux-mips kernel located in the > oss.sgi.com CVS repository. > > As for why it is working to keep most of the resources in oss.sgi.com > contrary to sourceforge, I don't really have an answer to that. Hope > this helps. Thanks for the background. Clearly, linux-mips has much history behind it. David
