Am Sonntag, den 13.12.2009, 20:12 -0800 schrieb Tim Ashman: > I sure hope nokia gives us the option. I can't imagine leaving something this > wrong broken. Nokia fix this and fix it soon. > > tim > > On Sunday 13 December 2009 07:20:45 pm Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote: > > I can't be certain but my guess is that this is the the X input focus > > issue. Apparently, Nokia changed the window manager in maemo5 so that it > > doesn't set input focus on windows as they are exposed. So that apps need > > to call XSetInputFocus() if they want input focus. Apparently most window > > managers don't exhibit this behavior and many apps were written assuming > > that they did not need to call XSetInputFocus(). There is some debate as to > > what the spec requires. But in any case many apps, such as emacs, and > > apparently also kmail, don't work with the maemo5 window manager, even when > > run remotely. > > > > There have been many threads on this, among them see: > > > > http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31696&page=2 > > http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/re-mapping_the_n900_keyboard-00 > >1/ http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/55127 > > http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-developers@xxxxxxxxx/msg22253.html > > http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/enlightenment-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >.net/13111286.html > > http://maemo.org/community/maemo-users/x_keyboard_input_focus_on_n900/ > > http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36952&highlight=input+focus > > > > My feeling is that while this may have been technically allowed by the spec > > (I don't know, I haven't read the spec) it definitely is the case that many > > very long-standing programs are broken by this so it was not a good idea. > > It is important to adhere to informal accepted practises as well as formal > > standards. > > > > Nokia did this for reasonable engineering reasons. It saves power on mobile > > devices. And apparently they felt that the majority of users would use apps > > specifically designed and compiled for the device. But there is a large > > community of users who use this device as a Linux computer, running > > standard Linux/Unix apps either ported to run natively in maemo, run in a > > chroot, or run remotely over X. And it is not reasonable to modify and > > recompile the huge base of Linux/Unix code to be compatible with the N900. Is there a bug report in bugs.maemo.org that summarizes these threads and provides good, valuable arguments/usecases why this should be changed (or somehow(TM) an option should be provided)? If not, feel free to go ahead. andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
