Wow, thank you and what a cluster. I sure hope nokia gives us the option. I can't imagine leaving something this wrong broken. Nokia fix this and fix it soon. tim On Sunday 13 December 2009 07:20:45 pm Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote: > I can't be certain but my guess is that this is the the X input focus > issue. Apparently, Nokia changed the window manager in maemo5 so that it > doesn't set input focus on windows as they are exposed. So that apps need > to call XSetInputFocus() if they want input focus. Apparently most window > managers don't exhibit this behavior and many apps were written assuming > that they did not need to call XSetInputFocus(). There is some debate as to > what the spec requires. But in any case many apps, such as emacs, and > apparently also kmail, don't work with the maemo5 window manager, even when > run remotely. > > There have been many threads on this, among them see: > > http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31696&page=2 > http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/re-mapping_the_n900_keyboard-00 >1/ http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/55127 > http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-developers@xxxxxxxxx/msg22253.html > http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/enlightenment-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >.net/13111286.html > http://maemo.org/community/maemo-users/x_keyboard_input_focus_on_n900/ > http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36952&highlight=input+focus > > My feeling is that while this may have been technically allowed by the spec > (I don't know, I haven't read the spec) it definitely is the case that many > very long-standing programs are broken by this so it was not a good idea. > It is important to adhere to informal accepted practises as well as formal > standards. > > Nokia did this for reasonable engineering reasons. It saves power on mobile > devices. And apparently they felt that the majority of users would use apps > specifically designed and compiled for the device. But there is a large > community of users who use this device as a Linux computer, running > standard Linux/Unix apps either ported to run natively in maemo, run in a > chroot, or run remotely over X. And it is not reasonable to modify and > recompile the huge base of Linux/Unix code to be compatible with the N900. > > I hope Nokia patches this, at least to make it a user-configurable option. > In the short term, I almost have working a workaround, a shell script that > runs in the background, detecting when windows get exposed and calling > XSetInputFocus() on them. It works but is currently power hungry and > specific to emacs. I'm working on making it more power efficient and more > general. I'll post it when I'm done. > > Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi) > _______________________________________________ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
