For privacy and robustness use your own server. Make it as dependable as you wish. I didn't mention something that seemed obvious to me: Encrypt everything! Use strong encryption, encrypt mail boxes or whole drives. For sensitive messages exchange the keys with your correspondents. julius On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Mark wrote: > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM, James Knott <james.knott@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Mark wrote: > > > >> The assertion that IMAP is better for use on multiple computers is > >> absolutely untrue, as I have had great success with POP3 on multiple > >> computers for many years. The truth is that I have more precise > >> control, with much less fussing and finagling, with POP3 than with > >> IMAP. As a matter of fact, most of the assertions about IMAP's > >> supposed advantages over POP3 are patently untrue. > >> > >> The truth is that IMAP has some limitations of its own (ironically due > >> to its online server-oriented nature) that don't exist at all with > >> POP3, and while IMAP may be better for some, POP3 is far better for > >> others. > >> > >> It's the difference between Windows and Linux: IMAP is Windows, > >> bloated and trying to be all things to all people, whereas POP is > >> Linux, with the power to do *exactly* what you want it to do and do it > >> a lot more efficiently, you just have to know how to get it done. > > > > This is one area where I have to disagree. > > You have every right to have differing requirements and usage, but you > don't really have a right to disagree with the premise, which is that > different people have different needs. If IMAP works better for you, > great! That's exactly my point. I started this argument because > somebody said "IMAP is what *you* want", not "IMAP is what I > prefer"... > > > Having used POP and IMAP, > > there's no way I'd use POP when I have a choice. I read my personal > > email on a variety of computers, including one at work. With IMAP, my > > mail is consistent on all computers. > > ... which is exactly what I *don't* like about IMAP. I also do email > on a variety of devices, from a desktop with huge amounts of storage > and processing power to my tablet, with relatively modest processing > power and relatively microscopic storage. I can store *everything* on > my desktop and easily back it up, work with a significantly smaller > subset of that on my laptop, and only the necessary stuff on my > tablet. I've used devices that are so limited that IMAP simply isn't > an option (it's not supported). I use Procmail to do filtering and > routing pre-Inbox, which greatly reduces the amount of network > bandwidth used by spam and other garbage, as well as increases > organization. > > > I don't have to remember to > > download a message to a computer, before it disappear from a POP server. > > I've never had a message "disappear" from a POP server that I didn't > *specify* to be deleted. Any "disappearing" messages are due to > incorrect settings, faulty filtering logic or bugs in the client. It > has nothing to do with POP3 or IMAP. > > > I don't have to remember what computer I sent a message from, when > > searching my sent messages. > > Neither do I. That's what the search function is for, and if in doubt > I know everything is on the desktop. > > > No matter which computer I use, all the > > messages are there and when I delete from one, I delete from all, since > > the mail is stored in a common location. > > Again, this is a *limitation*, not an asset, as far as I am concerned. > > I find it ironic that people who are ordinarily paranoid about > privacy, reliability, control, etc. don't have a problem putting their > faith in some server that could be anywhere, and could be out of > service at the worst possible time, along with all your old email. > Also, anything that exists on a server not under your direct control > can be accessed by others without your knowledge or consent. On the > other hand, if your messages are only on the server for a short time > and you keep your stuff offline, you will at least know if somebody > wants it because they will either leave a trail or will have to > subpoena *you*, not somebody else. (No, I'm not paranoid about this, > but it is a valid issue.) > > (And if you're still saving all your email to *any* of your local > machines, you're utterly invalidating any possible arguments you may > have as to IMAP's "advantages"...) > > Yes, I know that IMAP can be set up to act like POP3, but the reverse > is also true, and because POP3 is my preference, I don't like having > to jump through those particular hoops. > > In actual fact, there isn't enough difference between POP3 and IMAP > for even my arguments to bear much weight: the difference is more in > the implementation and usage than in the protocols. I just don't like > someone else telling me what I want. ;-) > > > > > However, the above does not excuse the problems of with the mail program > > or the arrogance of some. > > > > Okay, rant over. :-) > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users