Re: Microb Versus Mozilla Fennec

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Same feeling :)

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Anidel

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Jonathan Greene <atmasphere@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have a feeling that my 915 subscriptions have something to do with
the load issues.  ;)

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> That's weird,
>
> MicroB opens my Google Reader page with no issue at all, and is actually
> quite fast.
>
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> anidel
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Jonathan Greene <atmasphere@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> I love the Fennec browser though it could clearly use less memory, be
>> more stable and launch more quickly.  ;)
>>
>> It can actually render my Google Reader page which MicroB cannot ... I
>> find it super responsive and hope we see it packaged in a future
>> release.  What I understood from the original Ars piece on the topic
>> was that they are pretty close relatives, but that Fennec benefits
>> from a later code base which seems to really make quite the
>> difference.
>>
>> For every day use though I am running MicroB as it is far more
>> reliable at the moment.
>>
>> JG
>>
>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > ext John Holmblad wrote:
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> for those who have not already seen the article whose url is:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080409-first-look-mozilla-fennec-targets-handheld-browser-market.html
>> >>
>> >> It provides a comparison of the performance of Microb versus Fennec on
>> >> the N810. Fennec shows a ~6x speed improvement for _javascript_.
>> >
>> > Yes, the numbers of these automated tests are right. However, users
>> > having used both browsers will probably agree that in terms of real user
>> > experience as for today both are pretty similar, and even the Nokia
>> > version is performing better in real use conditions. I'm talking about
>> > my own experience and comments I've heard.
>> >
>> > What is your opinion? I'm sure both Nokia and Mozilla developers are
>> > interested to know.
>> >
>> > Is someone lying? Not at all. It's just a matter of looking at the
>> > details. The current MicroB engine was developed one year ago by Nokia
>> > starting with a pre-alpha of the latest Gecko engine, the freshest code
>> > available by then. The release under development done last Summer put a
>> > Mozilla based browser at a level where nobody could before (including
>> > the own Mozilla guys, who were happily surprised btw). Now Fennec is
>> > shipping a most recent Gecko and of course putting both one by side you
>> > get nowadays much better performance at engine level. How much MicroB's
>> > open source code helped on that, I don't know but I guess it saved them
>> > some work.
>> >
>> > But users don't deal with engines alone, you have the UI in between and
>> > this is where the Mozilla browser in Chinook and Fennec differ most: the
>> > first uses an own UI providing -as for today- much better performance
>> > that XUL, a component that seems like needing more work before being
>> > really fit in mobile devices. Are we going to keep this difference in
>> > the future? Time we tell. Both teams have a lot of work to do anyway.
>> >
>> > But in fact the best part of this Mozilla browsers comparison is not the
>> > numbers competition part but the human collaboration part. The Mozilla
>> > and Nokia developers are collaborating and both projects are in sync.
>> > The current development of the Mozilla browser for Diablo+1 is based
>> > directly on the Gecko trunk and we are discussing ways of deepening the
>> > collaboration, also at a community level. Imagine the wide community of
>> > Firefox add-on developers targeting the maemo platform - that would be
>> > fun.
>> >
>> > We are even having some common exercises of exploration, both sides
>> > learning a lot i.e. Qt support -
>> > http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/05/06/well-isnt-that-qt/
>> >
>> > Conclusion: We are as happy as you seeing the performance progress done
>> > by the Fennec project. We feel honored by them targeting our platform in
>> > the first place. Nokia is doing the right thing with the Mozilla
>> > development. Lots of potential for collaboration and cool stuff.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Quim Gil
>> > marketing manager, open source
>> > maemo software @ Nokia
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
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