On Thursday 29 November 2007 06:37:43 am Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 01:49 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: > > Why did they remove the useful tabs and replace it with multiple > > windows? Given that there is no WM in the traditional sense you > > can't resize and move between them easily. Tabs afforded the > > ability to quickly manage multiple term windows (my record on the > > IT is 10 tabs.) Windows bring this to a grinding halt. > > Because the platform style is multiple windows. And tabs wasted > quite a lot of *terminal window* space. Also if you have 10 tabs, > you cannot see pretty much anything relevant from the tab titles. > Sure your case of 10 tabs is a bit special too - maybe you could > just use "screen" instead? > > Multiple windows is consistent with the rest of the platform. I > also think it makes sense for the same reason the browser does not > have tabs: Tabs work a lot better in a large desktop where you can > drag windows around and group some of them together. Since > everything is fullscreen, tabs would just duplicate the function of > the window switcher. You probably won't have *that* many apps open > at once in a tablet anyway compared to a desktop computer anyway. > > > Why did they move the "button" bar to the bottom. Down there is > > steals valuable screen real-estate from you. > > It steals screen estate no matter where it is. The bottom-one is > (again) consistent with the rest of the device, and it is easier to > reach with fingers (remember the N810 has the keyboard so you hold > it a bit differently in your hands!) Note. You tell tabs are no good because the use up screen space then put a large bar on the bottom.... Also I'm using the n800 which needs the bar. With the n810 ... you always have a keyboard, You don't need the bar at all. > > You can also hide the whole toolbar if you want. good on the n810 not on the n800.... > > > Why is it that they split the adjust background color and font > > color into two different locations in the settings gui? > > This is in the "we'll laugh over this when we are old" -category. > ;) And be glad that Jeff Raskin isn't around to blast you on that UI decision ;) > > > Why did they increase the steps to use the ctrl key in the button > > bar? Before to do cntrl-c it was 2 clicks one on cntrl one on c > > ... now it's 5. cntrl - text box - c - ok - screen during this > > time the keyboard closes 2 or 3 times. This can make vi a real > > PITA too. > > Because a lot of stuff works differently with the physical > keyboard. And because I have no clue if the input method works > differently on the N800 with N810 OS release shoehorned into it? > :-) So now if I'm understanding you correct .... Nokia is saying pox on the n800 user we are off on a different bend once again. > > > Perhaps I'm just using the IT differently from most, I don't view > > it as sterility a muti-media toy. To me it's my #1 tool for > > doing my job, so perhaps I'm a bit sensitive. Sorry if I sound > > ranty I don't mean to be but I am wondering why so may drastic > > changes were made to a really good app. > > The bottom line is: there is still the old one you can just rebuild > for os2008 if it hasnt been built yet, and use that. We just made a > version that could be shipped with the N810 for convenience. No this is not a solution for a consumer product. You and I both know this. I guess I'm really going to have to find a viable replacement for the n800 I can't be switching hardware every year on a whim. > > Also, the source is in garage as osso-xterm, so go and tweak it to > your liking if you wish. I think all this "new" UI stuff is in the > "ui-rework"-branch. It doesn't build. The whole library structure is different from a -to b and I'm not a C programmer. > > //Tuomas > > > _______________________________________________ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users at maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users