N810 is here (ogg support)

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Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat:
> Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 ? 12:11 +0200, Krischan Keitsch a ?crit :
> > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 schrieb Frederic Crozat:
> > > Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 ? 11:59 +0300, Eero Tamminen a ?crit :
> > > > So, there shouldn't be any need for any Maemo specific specs, these
> > > > things are documented in upstream projects.  There should still be
> > > > a tutorial how to do these things though.
> > >
> > > Tutorial is already available in Maemo 3.x SDK documentation, but we
> > > aren't sure it is working as expected, because of mediaplayer
> > > "blackbox".
> > >
> > > > If there are still some problems after codec has been
> > > > correctly registered to gstreamer and mime-type database:
> > > > - gstreamer not recognizing the file type correctly
> > >
> > > I don't think it is the case, using :
> > >
> > > gst-launcher filesrc location=test.ogg  ! decodebin ! audioconvert !
> > > dsppcmsink does work, so gstreamer is handling the file correctly.
> >
> > We are spinning in circles. We have been there too many times already!
>
> So, let's break the circle.

Yes! That's the spirit!

>
> Using incantation won't change things. I prefer action.
>
> > > > - mediaplayer not playing the file
> > >
> > > I think the problem is here, unfortunately :(
> > >
> > > Developper documentation is a little too scarce about media player,
> > > unfortunately.> .
> >
> > Unfortunately. Am I wrong when I identify the missing source of the media
> > player as part of the problem? Or has it been released yet?
>
> It is one part of the problem but even if we had the source, it wouldn't
> ensure the problem is fixed.
>
> And I'm not in a mood to blame Nokia for not releasing Media Player
> source code. It is part of their policy to not release code from UI
> based application, I respect that, even if I regret it.
>
> So, now, the important thing is either to find if the gconf
> configuration for Media Player is wrong and can be fixed or if the
> problem is in Media Player itself (help from some Nokia dudes welcome
> here, hint hint :)
>
> > > > - file manager or browser not launching the media player properly
> > >
> > > This part works fine, mediaplayer is launched properly
> > >
> > > > Please file bugs.
> >
> > <sarcasm>
> > Like Bug 176, opened 2005-10-30?
> > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176
> > </sarcasm>
>
> I think you can drop this kind of reply. And I'm serious. This bring
> nowhere.
>

You are right. Sarcasm leads nowhere. I just wanted to point out that the 
community (and therefore the custumers) have been requesting ogg support 
since the beginning! 

> > > As a sidenote, from my distribution persective (I'm GNOME maintainer at
> > > Mandriva), Maemo community "fragmentation" about packages and
> > > duplicated work is killing me :( There seems to be a lot of energy
> > > around there but often doing the thing or not using infrastructure
> > > available thanks to Garage (for instance, some people are only using
> > > garage as a way to ship files and don't store their source code in
> > > SVN).
> >
> > I have been wondering that as well many times. How come that this
> > community is 'fragmented'? What is causing it?
>
> I don't think it is a problem of the "community" or "infrastructure" but
> more of a lack of common practices, which are already in place in
> various other distributions or project, from new people trying to work
> on Maemo-based software.

Regards Krischan




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