hey Even when they do have the profile, MS DUN performance is too pathetic to get excited about. I've never seen over 128Kbps using 3 different ppc devices. This was on a network that should be hitting the bt1.2 ceiling of 600+kbps. Strangely, their desktop DUN *client* is slow too, even when used with the motorola e815 flip phone that provides over 600kbps to linux clients. Brad