On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 10:35:31PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 09:03:50PM +0200, Anders Rune Jensen wrote: > > I'm the happy owner of a n770 and have been using it for a couple of > > months now. One thing that came as a big shock to me at first was how > > unstable the device was. > > Same. > > > I've had random reboots and also programs > > crashing randomly (mostly opera and navicore). I've been running linux > > for a long time on my machine at home and has never had this kind of > > instability. I was wondering if it had improved drastically with the > > n800. > > You could say that. The stability still does not match that of desktop > Linux, but it's much better than it used to be with the 770. Used to be > I had two unscheduled reboots per week, now there's hardly one a month. > And even then it's usually when I'm asking for it -- e.g. downloading > 100 megs of Google Maps into an SD card. > > The desktop sometimes crashes, but this doesn't cause a reboot any more > -- the desktop just restarts. > > Here are the stats from the lifeguard: > > ~ $ cat /var/lib/dsme/stats/lifeguard_resets > /usr/sbin/dsp_dld -p --disable-restart -c /lib/dsp/dsp_dld_avs.conf : 5 * > ~ $ cat /var/lib/dsme/stats/lifeguard_restarts > /usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop : 7 * > /usr/bin/esd : 16 > /usr/bin/osso_hss : 16 > /usr/bin/ias : 16 > /usr/sbin/dsp_dld -p --disable-restart -c /lib/dsp/dsp_dld_avs.conf : 26 > /usr/bin/osso-media-server : 2 > ~ $ cat /var/lib/dsme/stats/sw_rst > 3 > > I'm not sure how to reconcile the 5 dsp_dld resets with only 3 software > restarts, but this is much, *much* better than I had on the 770 with > resets counted in the tens. > > > As far as I remember, one of the main reasons for the instability > > was the low memory on the n770. This has doubled in the n800 so that > > might help. > > I've installed load-applet very early on and I always keep an eye on the > memory meter. If the RAM usage rises above 3 bars out of 4, I close > some application. As a result I'm pretty confident none of the crashes > I've experienced were caused by memory shortage. I get this kind of problem on a desktop machine with 2G of RAM, but not as often as you. Linux really has no adequate defences agains resource overcommitment. That's the main thing I'd like to see changed -- some way for it to know what's important and what is not. At the very least, it should always be poossible to get to a root console, run top and figure out what to kill. At the moment it isn't. -- hendrik
