7) when an application goes out of control (which, for example, my mplayer seems to be doing), how does one stop/kill it? The best way I have found so far is to open a terminal and give it a kill command. But what should I do if the GUI is frozen? Rebooting seems a bad idea as the filesystem of the N800 is not journalled and I am concerned that reboots might result in lost data. This won't work if the GUI is frozen, of course, but it does remove the xTerm layer (if you want to): https://garage.maemo.org/projects/load-applet/ T. --- Weblog ~ http://tim.samoff.com Baby Blog ~ http://kc.samoff.com Photography ~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/timsamoff Music ~ http://www.adkoc.com ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: kind of off-topic, but not completely: some questions about the N800 From: andrei raevsky To: "Tim" CC: "maemo-users at maemo.org" Date: 04/03/2007 7:25 am Dear friends, Thanks for all your suggestions. Looks like this list was the correct one to submit questions to :-) A couple of small follow-up, if I may: 1) updating the firmware: I have been using only GNU/Linux since 2000 (mostly Debian). I could try to find somebody with W2k or XP, but is there no GNU version of the software update at Nokia?! Surely this Debian-based unit has a Debian-based updating option? Also - since don't suppose 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' would work - why can't the 'check for updates' option of the application manager now allow a complete firmware update? Is it in the ROM? 2) batteries: just to see if I got this one right - I can leave the unit permanently connected to the charger and the batteries will be ok? 3) metalayer-crawler0: how do I disable this and could I simply let the unit sit for 5 minutes after boot-up instead? 4) chargers: the unit comes with a Nokia AC-4U charger rated at DC 5V/890mA. My cellphone - a Nokia 6133 - comes with a AC-3U charger rated at DC 5V/ 350mA. Could I use either one of them for *both* my N800 and my phone? That would mean less stuff to travel with (I also have a car charger for my phone - could I use that one for my N800?). 5) repos: the catalog of my application manager currently includes the following repos: * Nokia catalogue *Nokia catalogue (3rd party software) * FBReader repository *maemo-hackers *bora-extras * mg Can I trust all these repos and what repos should I add to this list? 6) system crashes: how does one reinstall/fix a N800 unit after a major crash? Assuming that I - as roo - do something I should not, or that by installing the wrong software I really screw-up my tablet terminally. How can I rescue/reinstall it? Is there a way to bootup the unit in CLI to fix any X/GUI problems? and lastly: 7) when an application goes out of control (which, for example, my mplayer seems to be doing), how does one stop/kill it? The best way I have found so far is to open a terminal and give it a kill command. But what should I do if the GUI is frozen? Rebooting seems a bad idea as the filesystem of the N800 is not journalled and I am concerned that reboots might result in lost data. Many thanks again and kind regards, Andrei -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/attachments/20070403/e732b5e4/attachment.htm