On Tuesday 30 January 2007 09:10:19 Gavin O' Gorman wrote: > On 1/30/07, Karl Bellve <Karl.Bellve at umassmed.edu> wrote: > > Personally, I wish Nokia would have went with thunderbird and firefox > > that could be improved by the outside community. Instead, they went with > > buggy pieces of proprietary code that Nokia can't seem to fix on its own. > > > > My other big complaint is that the entire device has to be reflashed in > > order to run the new version of the OS. Why can't they update different > > pieces, like the browser, or the kernel? Since the browser and flash > > player hasn't been updated, I don't think I will update my Nokia 770. > > I agree wholeheartedly with these points ! I would extend them further > to ask why the 770 OS cannot be as open as a standard debian > distribution. > > That is, comprised of a standard kernel that gets the device up and > running, with proprietary drivers available as binary .debs. All the > various applications distributed and installable as seperate .debs. > This way unwanted applications can be removed, for example, the > ridiculous email client etc. Kernels should be upgradable with a > simple apt-get, the package management mess should be cleaned up and > fixed. Gavin I agree and IMHO a lot of the problem seems to come from the fact that the developers where and are largely highly capable phone developers. It's a different mind set as you have noted. Now the question comes how can we encourage Nokia to leverage the tools they have available via Debian. I'm reminded that I recently talked with a friend of mine (Windows developer moved to Linux) who spent a month creating a boot loader for a micro Linux. I've not the heart to show him all the ones that already exist. James > > The advantage of opensource is in its flexibility and customisation. > Nokia have negated this by imposing a very rigid structure around the > 770. That's fine in itself, but don't pitch the device as opensource > and be surprised when people get annoyed with the lack of control they > have over it. > > Luckily for me, the one application I use very regularly, the > opensource FBreader, is highly stable. Otherwise I'd get very annoyed > with the device. > > Gavin > _______________________________________________ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users at maemo.org > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users