Re: The feasibility of implementing an alternative snapshot approach

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Hi Zdenek,

Thank you for your detailed answer.

For the thin snapshot I will use the latest version of kernel and lvm for further testing. I want to use both snapshot methods (thin and thick) in the production environment. But if the thick snapshot is only still in the maintenance phase, then for thick lv I have to see if there is any other way to accomplish the snapshot function.

I use lvm mainly for virtualized environments. Each lv acts as a block device of the virtual machine. So I also consider using qemu's own snapshot feature. When qemu creates a snapshot, the original image used by the virtual machine becomes read-only, and all write changes are stored in the new snapshot. But currently qemu's snapshots only support files, not block devices.

Regards

Zhiyong

On 1/6/23 9:42 PM, Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
Dne 04. 01. 23 v 17:12 Zhiyong Ye napsal(a):
Hi Zdenek,

Thank you for your reply.

Snapshots of thinlv are indeed more efficient compared to standard lv, this is because data blocks can be shared between snapshot and original thinlv. But there is also a performance loss after thinlv creates a snapshot. This is because the first write to the snapshotted thinlv requires not only allocating a new chunk but also copying the old data.

Here are some performance data and a discussion of the thinlv snapshot:

https://listman.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2022-June/026200.html


Well that's our current  'state-of-the-art' solution.

Make sure you are using latest kernels for your performance testing - there have been several improvements around the locking (6+ kernels) - but if this still not good enough for your case you might need to seek for some other solutions (although would be nice to know who handles this task better).

Definitely the old 'thick-snapshot' is mostly in maintenance phase and it's usability (and its design) is limited for some short living temporary snapshoting (i.e. you are making backup and after completing your backup of the filesystem you remove your temporary snapshot - it's been never designed to be used for multi-level multi-GiB snapshots - this will not fly...

When you use thin snapshots - make sure your metadata LV is located on your fast device and you use best fitting chunksize.

Regards

Zdenek

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