On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Marco Colombo wrote: > Stuart D. Gathman wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Dietmar Maurer wrote: > > It just means that write barriers won't get passed to the device. > > This is only a problem if the devices have write caches. Note > > that with multiple devices, even a FIFO write cache could cause > > reordering between devices (one device could finish faster than another). > > No, it's more than that. PostgreSQL gurus say LVM doesn't honor fsync(), That is clearly wrong - since fsync() isn't LVM's responsibility. I think they mean that fsync() can't garrantee that any writes are actually on the platter. > that data doesn't even get to the controller, and it doesn't matter > if the disks have write caches enabled or not. Or if they have battery backed > caches. Please read the thread I linked. If what they say it's true, That is clearly wrong. If writes don't work, nothing works. > you can't use LVM for anything that needs fsync(), including mail queues > (sendmail), mail storage (imapd), as such. So I'd really like to know. fsync() is a file system call that writes dirty buffers, and then waits for the physical writes to complete. It is only the waiting part that is broken. -- Stuart D. Gathman <stuart@bmsi.com> Business Management Systems Inc. Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703 591-6154 "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis" - background song for a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial. _______________________________________________ linux-lvm mailing list linux-lvm@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm read the LVM HOW-TO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/