Hi Heinz
Since I was not sure if you really understand the german tongue, so I write
in english. You're really kind of my last resort concerning my problem.
You might ask why I don't write to one of the mailing lists. Well, the
answer is quite simple: I don't trust them in this case. I don't think I
have many tries left to save my data, so I need a real expert advice. Don't
ask about a backup, there's none. And this is just one of my major faults.
But maybe I found a bug, we'll see. Let me describe my problem and what I
did first.
My setup is as following:
- 2 SCSI drives, 18/9 GB
- 1 IDE drive, 80 GB
- Redhat 8.0, with
- / on LVM (!! Redhat allows this without warning. I didn't know about
the
dangerosity)
- /boot on a standard ext3 partition
- /home, respectively /new-home on LVM, which is my major concern.
- I have/had one VG, /dev/CaradhrasVG/ spanning first the two SCSI disks.
Yesterday I added the IDE disk to this VG.
- /dev/CaradhrasVG/RootVG holding the /(remember this name!). Here, also
/new-home and /home is located
- /dev/CaradhrasVG/HomeLV, formatted with ext3 but empty. It was intended
to
copy the homes here lateron.
Fdisk shows this:
/dev/sda:
255 heads, 63 sectors, 1106 cyls
/dev/sda1,Bootable,Start:1,End:13,Blocks:104391,83/Linux
/dev/sda2,-,Start:14,End:1106,Blocks:8779522+,8e/LinuxLVM
/dev/sdb
2231 cyls
/dev/sdb1,Bootable,Start:1,End:2231,Blocks:17920476,8e/LinuxLVM
/dev/hdc
fdisk -l shows no output. There's no partitioning. I did pvcreate /dev/hdc.
Ok, yesternight I added my IDE drive /dev/hdc to the VG. With the new space
inside the VG I decided to create the HomeLV using the whole new space.
Doing this (which ran fine and without any hassle), I found that the Root
Volume had the wrong name (RootVG instead of RootLV). So I changed its name
using "lvrename". After that, I changed the entry in /etc/fstab. First big
mistake. The result was, that no booting was possible with an error message
like that:
mount: error 2 mounting ext3
pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2
umount /initrd/proc failed: 2
A search on google brought exactly two japanese pages. A different search
showed up a lot of different error codes, but not "error 2".
Since Redhat offers the "linux rescue" mode on their CD, I tried that, and
voilà! it worked. But here, I obviously did my second (but less serious
IMHO) mistake. Without being in a chrooted environment, I changed the name
of RootLV back to RootVG. After booting from disk, my RH installation booted
and found init but failed to fsck /. Simply because the Volume was still
somehow named RootVG, but mounted as RootLV.
Then all went very fast. It was almost three o'clock in the morning and I
was very tired and angry about myself, this is obviously one of the reasons
why I commited such stupid, stupid mistakes. But here we go.
I decided to extract the (unused? no!) IDE drive from the VG to store the
important data in some safe place. Again, with RH's rescue CD but WITHOUT
chroot. When I issued "vgreduce CaradhrasVG /dev/hdc", vgreduce answered
with an error message like "it's in use. don't do that". Well, I thought in
my fever that it means the VG which was in use. Therefore I rebooted with
the CD but I didn't mount the OS on the disks at all, which I thought would
allow me to vgreduce. It worked, but with an error message which I don't
remember. I personally think that the label on /dev/hdc has been removed but
no (which?) config files have been updated. Could this be a bug? Well,
anyway, after a reboot with the RH CD there was just the message "Could not
find a valid RedHat Installation". Bang-boom. "vgscan -v" shows this:
...
reading data of volume group "CaradhrasVG" from physical volume(s)
ERROR "vg_read_with_pv_and_lv(): current PV" can't get data of volume group
"CaradhrasVG" from physical volumes
...
For me, this shows that if /dev/hdc would be added to the VG again, it could
work.
You know, I don't care about my personal data. But on these disks, we have
around 3100 pictures of our kids of which I don't have a solid backup (some
months are missing), and all my wife's E-Mails (which was just too big to
store on a CD Rom) plus some very, very old compuserve mails which document
how my wife and I met several years ago. It's memory, without backup. That's
also why I don't trust the mailing lists: It's just too important to me and
my wife! I hope you understand that and accept it as a reason why I am
bothering you personally.
I don't know the LVM internals, but I have several ideas how I could bring
the data back. I am kindly asking you to point out IF there's a way to fix
it, and if yes, how I could do it. Here's what I was thinking of.
- I could try (under your lead if possible) to bring /dev/hdc back into the
CaradhrasVG
so that I can redo what I wanted to (extract hdc), but CLEANLY this time.
IMHO this is
the safest solution, if it's possible. As I said, I don't know how LVM
rally works,
but I guess that you store information about the VG membership somewhere
on the drive
itself. If yes, there could be a chance to recover that (hopefully).
- The second approach (which I don't like that much) is to remove the hdc
from the VG
somehow. But since I don't have access to /etc, I have no clue how to
manage this.
- The third possible approach (which I really don't like) is to try to
access /home and
/new-home on the VG directly somehow. I am quite sure that only the SCSI
disks are used
by the VG, but not 100%
This mail will go in CC to Beat Rubischon, a veteran unix admin and head of
the LUGS. He agreed to help me sorting out this mess.
Heinz, I really hope you feel my desesperation. I have no clue how to
proceed best from here, but I also don't want to accept that all data is
lost. It's just too emotionally important to us. Memories.
Thank you very much in advance. I am really looking forward to hearing from
you soon, and if it's only a line like "yes, I have read your mail and I am
thinking about it" or something similar. This would set me a bit at ease.
Yours Sincerely
André Bonhote
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