Thank you very much for you insightful answers to my questions! (I've responded to a few comments/questions of yours below). In a message dated: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:14:59 BST "William Blunn" said: >A lot of people seem to want LVM to do magic on their existing systems >which are full of data, which is something it doesn't do. You are going to >need to backup-and-restore, or set up LVM on new disks. Well, I'm not looking for magic, just neat things to play with, new ways of doing things, and easier methods of managing disk space :) >The real trick is to put in LVM on day one even if you're not sure you need it. Well, that's sort of what I'm doing. I'm currently in an environment where there is nothing, and everything important is being managed by "Someone Else". Therefore, I'm free to play for now. Hopefully, if I can come up with a good solution, I can replace the "Someone Else" in the future, since the groups I work with doesn't really like them :) >Although you would need to give some more information about your situation. > You are using Debian unstable which suggests you want to live on the bleed >ing edge, but you are also using RAID5 which suggests you want to make a stable >reliable system. AFAICT these two goals are incompatible. Yes I'm currently using Sid, and yes I realize that it's "bleeding edge", and yes, I mention RAID5 which indicates I'd like a stable/reliable system. However, I'm "playing" right now, and since I run Sid on all my other systems, I just grabbed it out of reflex. Since Woody is recently released, when/if I go into production mode, I'll probably switch to that. Here's what I'm thinking of doing. I have a bunch of 1u rack-mount systems which each have 4 80GB drives in them. In the near future, I'm likely to have identical systems with 160GB drives in them instead. Out of all that disk space, I'm using less than 2GB on the primary IDE master drive. What I was thinking, was to combine LVM with NBD (Network Block Device). This would allow me to set up one or two nodes as the "file server" using LVM. When I created add a new node to my environment for some reason, I'll set it up with the nbd-server to serve out it's drives. The "file server" node could then exploit the unused disk space on this new node in the environment. For "reliability of data" I was thinking of using either ext3 or reiserfs across a RAID set. Though, because I wasn't completely sure of how LVM worked wrt RAID, I was unsure where to do the RAID, at the back-end on the system where the disks physically reside, or on the front-end, where I'm using LVM. What I'm thinking of now is to not use RAID at all, rather just use LVM, and maybe use RAID to mirror VGs. I'm well aware that this is probably insane and won't work as I'd ideally like it to. But as I said, I have a lot of free time, and I like to learn new things. NBD and LVM *seem* to be made for each other. They both may be a little too experimental at this point in time, which is okay, I can afford that risk, and maybe, by doing this, I may find better ways of doing what I want. So, that's the scoop on what I'm trying to do. Comments, questions, concerns? :) Thanks again! -- Seeya, Paul -- It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! _______________________________________________ linux-lvm mailing list linux-lvm@sistina.com http://lists.sistina.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-lvm read the LVM HOW-TO at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/Pages/howto.html
