Re: Getting correct temperature information from Intel 945GSE/ICH7M

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>>On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:31:11PM +0000, Sebastian Werner wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am trying to get the right temperature from two different pieces of hardware.
>> The first, newest piece (http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/ITX-JBC362F36.html) works right out of the box. Got lm-sensor on the debian system, sensors-detect tells me to modprobe lm78 and the temperature is roughly the same as the one shown in the bios.
>> 
>> Acpitz-virtual-0
>> Adapter: Virtual device
>> Temp1:              +40.0°C  (crit = +127.0°C)
>> Temp2:              +26.8°C  (crit = +127.0°C)
>> Temp3:              +26.8°C  (crit = +100.0°C)
>> 
>This output is not from the lm78 driver.
>
>The "coretemp" driver works with this CPU (Atom N2600). Load it and see what it reports.

Weirdly enough, trying to load "coretemp" on the new hardware gives me a
 "No such device" error ...

Like Jean mentioned, I am running a rather old version, due to having old
packages and all their baggage. I took the newest version from http://dl.lm-
sensors.org/lm-sensors/files/sensors-detect and reran it on all the systems I
have access to.
sensors-detect output:

Driver `coretemp':
  * Chip `Intel digital thermal sensor' (confidence: 9)

Driver `f71882fg':
  * ISA bus, address 0x295
    Chip `Fintek F71808A Super IO Sensors' (confidence: 9)

#----cut here----
# Chip drivers
modprobe coretemp
modprobe f71882fg
/usr/bin/sensors -s
#----cut here----




>> Not temp2 and temp3 though. Both temperatures never change and they have no connection to anything I can read in the bios.
>> I presumed that those are 'dead wires' and I am at the moment ignoring those, since temp1 is good enough for me.
>> 
>The temperatures are reported by ACPI. No idea how that translates to hardware
>temperatures. If the temperature never changes, there may be a bug in the
>ACPI tables. Those are controlled by the board manufacturer, and would be
>updated with the BIOS. Do you have the latest BIOS versions installed ?
>
>> The second, the older piece (http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/ITX-JBC360F33-B.html) does not seem to work. Sensors-detect tells me to load coretemp, using the latest version of sensors-detect from the site wants to also me to load the f71882fg driver. That doesn't work out with a 'No such device' error.
>> 
>What is your kernel version, and what exactly does sensors-detect report ?

I am on debian sqeeze, running 2.6.32-5-686

sensors-detect gives me this:

Driver `coretemp':
  * Chip `Intel digital thermal sensor' (confidence: 9)

Driver `lm78':
  * ISA bus, address 0x290
    Chip `National Semiconductor LM78' (confidence: 6)

Driver `f71882fg':
  * ISA bus, address 0x295
    Chip `Fintek F71869F/E Super IO Sensors' (confidence: 9)

#----cut here----
# Chip drivers
modprobe coretemp
modprobe f71882fg
modprobe lm78
/usr/bin/sensors -s
#----cut here----

coretemp is loadable, but f71882fg gives me this:
~/detect# modprobe --first-time -v f71882fg
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/hwmon/f71882fg.ko 
FATAL: Error inserting f71882fg (/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/hwmon/f71882fg.ko): No such device

>If I interpret the information I find on the web correctly, the board might
>be MI812 or MI810 from iBT. If so, the Fintek chip on the board is only used
>for COM ports. Try loading the w83627ehf driver instead.

Trying to load w83627ehf gives me the same "No such device" error.

>> Acpitz-virtual-0
>> Adapter: Virtual device
>> Temp1:              +30.0°C  (crit = +100.0°C)
>> Coretemp-iso-0000
>> Core 0:               +30.0°C  (crit = +90.0°C)
>> 
>The CPU is Atom N270, so the reported critical core temperature is correct.
>CPU temperature measurements are highly inaccurate that far below the maximum
>temperature, so the reported value is as good as it gets. Accuracy is better
>with higher temperatures.

All in all I am not after exact values. I need to find out if the system had
been used in the wrong environments, which might have lead to the demise of the
hardware. How accurate are we talking here? I just want to set a threshold to
watch over, maybe setting it to ~50 degrees as a first stepping stone.

>> Both are no realistic values. Temp1 never changes. The Core 0 temperature seems too low (both systems feel roughly the same to the touch from the outside), it does change if I put a ventilator beside it.

>> I feel quite out of my field in this, could someone give me a pointer or two what might be going on or where I could read up to understand this weird situation?
>
>Not really weird at all, but quite common.

This makes me feel at least a tiny bit better. :)
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