Hi Rob, > I'm new to the list, but having googled and searched the list archives, > I cant see any mention of the AMD K10 since april and wondered what the > current status is ? Status is still the same. 1) no thermal datasheet - no known TControlMAX - we need this because the temperature it measures is non-physical. 2) Some? Maybe all revisions of Phenoms have some problem with digital sensors. What is your cpuid of your cpu? cat /proc/cpuinfo or even better please mail here the output of cpuid utillity. Thanks, Rudolf