On Tue, 16 Apr 2019, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 01:47:30PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2019, Petr Mladek wrote: > > > > > > I think I'd rather go in the opposite direction: allow the patches to be > > > > loaded. Then they can be forced, if needed. That enables both compile > > > > and runtime testing. That way we don't make any backward progress, > > > > until such arches get reliable stacktraces. > > > > > > Do you mean to convert the error into warning? > > > > > > For example, the change below. Note that I did not mention > > > the possibility to force the transition by intention. It is risky > > > and people should not get used to it. > > > > > > Heh, I think that this was the main reason why it was the error. > > > We did not want to get people used to forcing livepatches. > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/kernel/livepatch/core.c b/kernel/livepatch/core.c > > > index d1af69e9f0e3..8d9bce251516 100644 > > > --- a/kernel/livepatch/core.c > > > +++ b/kernel/livepatch/core.c > > > @@ -1035,11 +1035,10 @@ int klp_enable_patch(struct klp_patch *patch) > > > return -ENODEV; > > > > > > if (!klp_have_reliable_stack()) { > > > - pr_err("This architecture doesn't have support for the livepatch consistency model.\n"); > > > - return -EOPNOTSUPP; > > > + pr_warn("This architecture doesn't have support for the livepatch consistency model.\n"); > > > + pr_warn("Only one livepatch can be installed.\n"); > > > } > > > > > > - > > > > This seems to have been lost. > > Sorry, this must have gotten lost in my inbox - yes, something like the > above is what I had in mind. Though instead of "one livepatch can be > installed" it might say that the patch transition may never complete. Sounds better to me too. > BTW, might we want to consider adding a way to say "this patch doesn't > need the consistency model", which just applies the patch immediately > like we used to? Like patch->simple = true? Then we could easily > support all arches for basic patches. I'd rather not return to immediate. There was a bug (commit d0807da78e11 ("livepatch: Remove immediate feature") explains it), it made the code complicated and it was impossible to disable patches/remove modules with that. After all, the consistency model gives us not only the consistency, but also assurance that all tasks were migrated outside of patched functions. > > I think we should take this aproach before Miroslav is ready with > > realiable stack traces for s390. At the same time, I'd suggest issuing a > > proper WARN() there instead of just pr_warn(). The kernel might be in a > > potentially funky state, so let's at least get the 'W' taint in place. > > I don't think it would be in a dangerous state, because > save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable() will return -ENOSYS and the patch will > remain in transition forever because the signaling doesn't work for > kthreads. So I don't think a warning is necessary. In fact we may want > to remove the warning in the generic version of > save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable(). I would not mind. Miroslav