On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 03:52:13PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 01:28:13PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:03:42AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > If not, then sure we can do this; it's not like I managed to get rid of > > > muteX_is_locked() -- and I actually tried at some point :/ > > > > > > And just now I grepped for it, and look what I find: > > > > > > drivers/hid/hid-nintendo.c: if (unlikely(mutex_is_locked(&ctlr->output_mutex))) { > > > drivers/nvdimm/btt.c: if (mutex_is_locked(&arena->err_lock) > > > > > > And there's more :-( > > > > Are these actually abuse? I looked at these two, and they both seem to > > be asking "Does somebody else currently have this mutex?" rather than > > "Do I have this mutex?". > > It's effectively a random number generator in that capacity. Someone > might have it or might have had it when you looked and no longer have > it, or might have it now but not when you asked. Also, there's more fun; the 'is_locked' store from spin_lock() (or mutex, or whatever) is not ordered vs any other write inside the critical section. So something like: bar = 0; CPU0 CPU1 spin_lock(&foo) bar = 1; x = READ_ONCE(bar) y = spin_is_locked(&foo); spin_unlock(&foo); can have x==1 && y==0, even though CPU0 is currently inside the critical section. Normally that doesn't matter, and for the program-order case where you ask 'am I holding the lock' this obviously cannot go wrong. But the moment you ask: 'is someone else holding the lock' it all goes sideways real fast. We've been there, done that, got a t-shirt etc..