Re: [PATCH] xfs: preserve DIFLAG2_NREXT64 when setting other inode attributes

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On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 8:12 PM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 10:22:03AM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 8:24 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 08:29:40AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jun 05, 2022 at 09:35:43AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > > From: Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >
> > > > > It is vitally important that we preserve the state of the NREXT64 inode
> > > > > flag when we're changing the other flags2 fields.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Darrick J. Wong <djwong@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_ioctl.c |    3 ++-
> > > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > >
> > > > Fixes tag?
> >
> > Thank you Dave!
> >
> > >
> > > Does this really need one?
> >
> > I say why not.
>
> Every one of these asks adds friction for patch authors.  For code that
> has already shipped in a Linus release it's a reasonable ask, but...
>
> > I am not looking for a fight. Really, it's up to xfs maintainers how to manage
> > experimental features. That is completely outside of scope for LTS.
> > I only want to explain my POV as a developer.
> >
> > You know my interest is in backporting fixes for LTS, so this one won't be
> > relevant anyway, but if I were you, I would send this patch to stable 5.18.y
> > to *reduce* burden on myself -
>
> ...WHY?
>
> This is a fix for a new ondisk feature that landed in 5.19-rc1.  The
> feature is EXPERIMENTAL, which means that it **should not** be
> backported to 5.18, 5.15, or any other LTS kernel.  New features do NOT
> fit the criteria for LTS backports.
>
> That's why I didn't bother attaching a fixes tag!
>
> > The mental burden of having to carry the doubt of whether a certain
> > reported bug could have been involved with user booting into 5.18.y
> > and back.
> >
> > When you think about it, it kind of makes sense to have the latest .y
> > in your grub menu when you are running upstream...
> > Users do that - heck, user do anything you don't want them to do,
> > even if eventually you can tell the users they did something that is
> > not expected to work, you had already invested the time in triage.
> >
> > Sure, there is always the possibility that someone in the future of 5.19.y
> > will boot into 5.18.0, but that is a far less likely possibility.
> >
> > For this reason, when I write new features I really try to treat the .y
> > release as the true release cycle of that feature rather than the .0,
> > regardless of LTS.
> > If I were the developer of the feature, I would have wanted to see
> > this fix applied to 5.18.y.
>
> This fix **WILL NOT APPLY** to 5.18!
>

I stand corrected.
Sorry for the noise.

Amir.



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