Am 24.11.2014 um 22:02 schrieb Linus Torvalds: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Christian Borntraeger > <borntraeger@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> That looks like a lot of changes all over ACCESS_ONCE -> ASSIGN_ONCE: >> git grep "ACCESS_ONCE.*=.*" >> gives me 200 placea not in Documentation. > > Yeah, that's a bit annoying. > > How about a combination of the two: > > - accept the fact that right now ACCESS_ONCE() is fairly widespread > (even for writing) > > - but also admit that we'd be better off with a nicer interface > > and make the solution be: > > - make ACCESS_ONCE() only work on scalars, and deprecate it > > - add new "read_once()" and "write_once()" interfaces that *do* work > on (appropriately sized) structures and unions, and start migrating > things over. In particular, start with the ones that can no longer use > ACCESS_ONCE() because they aren't scalar.. > > That second point would make the conversion patches actually easier to > read. Instead of this: > > static inline int arch_spin_is_locked(arch_spinlock_t *lock) > { > - struct __raw_tickets tmp = ACCESS_ONCE(lock->tickets); > + arch_spinlock_t tmp = {}; > > - return tmp.tail != tmp.head; > + tmp.head_tail =ACCESS_ONCE(lock->head_tail); > + return tmp.tickets.tail != tmp.tickets.head; > } > > which isn't *complex*, but is also not an obvious conversion, we'd have just > > static inline int arch_spin_is_locked(arch_spinlock_t *lock) > { > - struct __raw_tickets tmp = ACCESS_ONCE(lock->tickets); > - struct __raw_tickets tmp = read_once(lock->tickets); > > return tmp.tail != tmp.head; > } > > which is a much simpler and more obvious change. > > And then we could slowly try to migrate existing ACCESS_ONCE() users > over (particularly writers). > > Hmm? Too much? I will give it a try. I will start with Alexei's version for ACCESS_ONCE and your snippets to build read_once and write_once. The only open question is, what to do with the "too large" accesses. Pauls initial patch showed several places, e.g. kernel/sched/fair.c accessing an u64 even on 32bit: [...] age_stamp = ACCESS_ONCE(rq->age_stamp); avg = ACCESS_ONCE(rq->rt_avg); [...] I think I will simply not touch those... Christian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-x86_64" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html