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On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Christian Lamparter
<chunkeey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 03:20:24 PM J Igrap wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Christian Lamparter
>> <chunkeey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 03:09:14 PM J Igrap wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Christian Lamparter
>> >>> On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:18:23 PM J Igrap wrote:
>> >>>> While using the past days the carl9170 firmware with a USB card under a
>> >>>> linux guest running different kernel and driver versions I kept running into
>> >>>> the issue of a usb disconnect when the card was put under load:
>> >>> linux guest? You are not using carl9170 in a VM, are you?
>> >>>
>> >> It is in a VM. I was working on a VM for ease of debugging the issue.
>> > So, I presume you have already tried running the driver natively
>> > and it fails in a similar fashion, right? [I just want to rule out
>> > a bug in the VM layers]
>> >
>>
>> Yes, it appears to fail in slow/older physicals too.
>
> what's "slower/older"? I know a few people reported problems with embedded USB
> HCDs but that's understandable. However, I occasionally test carl9170 on a 7
> year old laptop and so far it runs ok.
>

A physical pentium 4 single core machine. Also pretty much every
vmware version (workstation and fusion).
The card gets reset randomly.


>> >>>>  usb 1-1: no command feedback received (-110).
>> >>>>  carl9170 cmd: 08 01 00 00 f0 36 1c 00 00 24 00 00              .....6...$..
>> >>>>  usb 1-1: restart device (6)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No matter what kernel driver/firmware I tried I will still get it. I decided
>> >>>> to look into it a bit more and I narrowed it down to be a firmware issue
>> >>>> with the following code snippet:
>> >>> Or it could be a problem with the USB PHY. However, the driver
>> >>> seems to be able to handle the situation and restarts the device
>> >>> accordingly.
>> >>>
>> >> I tried with several physical devices and they all seemed to have the
>> >> same behavior. The device does restart however you lose connectivity
>> >> and state of what you were doing.
>> > Any transmission protocol should be able to handle loss of connectivity.
>> > Furthermore all connection managers [wpa_supplicant, NetworkManager, wicd]
>> > will automatically reestablish the link if the device was put out by a
>> > catastrophic failure.
>> >
>> >>>> void handle_cmd(struct carl9170_rsp *resp) in src/cmd.c
>> >>>>
>> >>>>         case CARL9170_CMD_WREG:
>> >>>> esp->hdr.len = 0;
>> >>>>                 for (i = 0; i < (cmd->hdr.len / 8); i++)
>> >>>>                         set(cmd->wreg.regs[i].addr, cmd->wreg.regs[i].val);
>> >>>>                 break;
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That code appears to handle event 1 which is a write into a register. In
>> >>>> some cases that write appeared to cause a failure and a reset into the card.
>> >>>> I added a simple delay loop before the switch statement and that seemed to
>> >>>> fix the issue and I don't lose the card anymore even under a lot of load.
>> >>>> Obviously that's not a real fix and something else more reliable needs to be
>> >>>> in place.
>> >>> Any idea what this "something" else might be?
>> >>
>> >> I'm not very familiar with how USB works, maybe someone with more
>> >> experience can shed some light here? It seems to me that the event
>> >> handling needs to be slowed down a little or add some kind of
>> >> verification.
>> > the usb protocol already incorporates some verification
>> > http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb3.shtml
>> >
>> > furthermore, the driver counts each command frame, therefore it can
>> > detect whenever a frame was lost.
>>
>> It does detect it and restarwts the device, hoever when running under
>> VMware os r slower physicalit gets in the way since the device resets
>> very often.
>>
>> I tried build various firmware's as an experiment and I noticed that
>> the higher I set the Max Frame Length the more resistant it becomes.
>> The script I wrote basically sends
>> a beacon packet multiple times in monitor mode and has a counter of
>> how many packets went through before the card resets. Any ideas what
>> could be causing this?
> no. Unlike ath9k_htc fw, carl9170 does not have "space" to add any
> sophisticated tracer. So, you are stuck with the 1/2-bit LEDs as a
> window to the device.
>
> Regards,
>        Christian
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