Hi Larry, A few _quick_ notes ("impressions") so you can get me more/detailed instructions while I'm getting the hang of openSUSE :) > Could you please download a Live KDE CD from > software.opensuse.org/121/en > It should not matter whether you use the 32- or 64-bit version. > After you boot it, use the NetworkManager system tray > applet to connect to your system. > Does that work? Yes. How? Very smoothly. > Next, use 'ps ax' to get the PID for NetworkManager and kill it. > Then try your iwconfig/ifconfig command sequence. > Does that work? No. Same old story. Actually, I tried the "iwconfig/ifconfig" (from the KDE terminal) first. It didn't work so then, quite discouraged, I went to the NM above. As I said, worked AOK, I then killed the guy, so I can try the "iwconfig/ifconfig" again. No cigar, as I explained above. Note: in retrospect, I'm wondering if in Knoppix what would've happened if I had tried his graphics mode (some sort of KDE clone). An even bigger wonder. I'll be looking into that: When doing 'ps ...' I noticed there was a wpa_supplicant(?) running. If that was a requirement for NM, it should've helped when I went "down" in command (KDE terminal) mode as well. ??? I don't remember if the supplicant process was killed (as a side effect). Thanks, -- Alex -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html