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Re: [PATCH 1/5] iwlwifi: Simplify tx queue management

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On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 14:17 -0800, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Johannes Berg
> <johannes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 09:56 -0800, Nathaniel J. Smith wrote:
> >> Previously, the iwlwifi driver filled its transmit queue until it
> >> reached a high-water mark, and then stopped until it had fallen to a
> >> low-water mark. This basic logic makes sense for interrupt mitigation
> >> -- you might not want to wake up the CPU after every packet, but
> >> instead wait until a batch of packets has been sent -- except the
> >> iwlwifi driver doesn't actually do any interrupt mitigation; the CPU
> >> wakes up after every packet transmitted anyway. So we simplify the
> >> code to maintain only a single limit on total queue length, and
> >> whenever we drop below that limit we allow more packets in.
> >>
> >> This patch should have no user-visible effect.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure the devices (but maybe not 3945) implement interrupt
> > mitigation at least in some cases. How did you arrive at the conclusion
> > that "the driver doesn't actually do any interrupt mitigation"?
> 
> Two reasons:
>   -- I searched the code and couldn't find any evidence for it
>   -- If I'm wrong then the quickest way to find out is to make loud
> and confident claims in front of people who know better ;-)
> I might be wrong.
> 
> If so, then it'd be pretty straightforward to extend this approach to
> handle interrupt mitigation -- you set the low mark to N ms, and the
> high mark to N+M ms, where N is the amount of time you think you need
> to refill the queue after it drops, and 1/M is the maximum interrupt
> rate you're willing to tolerate.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:33 AM, wwguy <wey-yi.w.guy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Nathaniel,
> [...]
> > what device you test this with? I will like to see this changes with
> > newer device, especially with aggregation.
> 
> Hi Wey,
> 
> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
> [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
> 
> Sadly, I don't have access to any newer hardware. I'd be happy to take
> donations ;-), but probably someone else will need to do the testing?
> 
> I wouldn't be surprised if it needed some tweaks to properly handle
> aggregation (in particular, I'd want to start by clamping the minimum
> queue size to match our best guess at the number of packets we can
> currently combine into a single transmission), but I'm not enough of
> an 802.11 expert to be confident about how to do that either. That
> number varies with the rate, yes? So we'd need some way to ask the
> rate control algorithm what rate it plans to use next?
> 

right, I will really like to see those changes being test with agn
device first.

btw, we are in the process of splitting 3945/4965 out of iwlwifi into it
own directory (iwlwifilegacy). The work should be done and upstream in
the next few days. I will really prefer you wait for us done the split
works first, then consider those changes.

Thanks
Wey


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