On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 02:04:43PM -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 10:26 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:11:02PM +0200, Johannes Berg wrote: > > > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 18:52 +0200, Ivo van Doorn wrote: > > > > > > > [some text expressing his frustration] > > > > > > This is exactly why I was against staging all the time. Now suddenly > > > "The Crap" seems like a viable alternative. WAKE UP PEOPLE. The code is > > > not useful. Just look at the code that Mike pasted into his email. That > > > alone should be enough to send cold shivers down your spine! > > > > Hm, "useful" is in the eye of the beholder. > > > > There is no driver in the mainline kernel tree for this device, so a > > "normal" user has no chance of getting it working, right? That's why > > -staging is working, there is a semi-working driver, and most > > importantly, people willing to help out getting it working better. > > > > The combination of the two is what works here. > > > > So please, I understand your frustration on a lack of people helping out > > with out-of-tree wireless drivers that don't quite work properly, but > > please, that has NOTHING to do with the staging drivers. > > > > Meanwhile, I'm off on the driver-devel list helping Mike fix this > > problem, which seems simple enough to solve... > > Except that the energy you're now investing in fixing this could have > gone into rt2x00, and we would come out ahead in the end. Instead, the > energy is sapped away by something that will *never* be mainlined. On the contrary, I would have never spent any time working on rt2x00 :) And are you trying to tell people _what_ to work on here? That's a slippery slope... thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
