Hi Johannes, > > > What exactly is broken by this? Wext never guaranteed that 'qual' values > > > be present, and thus any application that breaks from not having 'qual' > > > is broken anyway. > > > > that be it, but I would still consider this a regression. Since when do > > we just start removing API details without any proper warning or grace > > period? > > Why not? The API even contains whether or not the values are valid, and > after discussing with many of the stakeholders (network manager, > wpa_supplicant) we've decided that there's little use in the qual.qual > value. Especially since you want to compare the 'quality' of the AP > against the one you're associated to, so qual isn't really useful at all > due to the various factors it can contain. > > So hey, if you want to scream "regression" then we can add a 'qual.qual' > value back. It'll still be entirely pointless, and I'll still be against > it, but I'm not going to risk anyone reverting this patch, it's way too > useful. And if you're going to scream regression then please keep in > mind that then you're going to scream about the wext limit again... I > can't fix it up in the next couple of weeks anyway. remember that I am all for replacing WEXT and getting rid of it, but we need to be careful with just removing parts of the API in the middle without people noticing. At least I missed it. So you can argue that it is my fault, but I think it is not really clear to everybody that this value is missing now with future kernel versions. And that WEXT doesn't guarantee that qual.qual is present is not a really good point since cfg80211 in the past did fill in this value. So if you really wanna remove this value (and I agree with the argument that it is not useful), then we should do this gracefully. Using the feature-removal-schedule.txt document comes to my mind. Regards Marcel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
