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On 10/6/2023 2:21 PM, Kalle Valo wrote:
Julian Calaby <julian.calaby@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

Hi Dmitry,

(relevant people and lists CC'd)

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 3:16 AM Dmitry Antipov <dmantipov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kalle,

what's an actual status of brcm80211 driver? It seems
that the relevant MAINTAINERS entries are no longer
useful, and [1] states that Broadcom is just "disappeared".

Arend hasn't posted since February:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/63f72045-e51d-d9a4-a0ed-c221bcdcee03@xxxxxxxxx/

Franky is still reviewing things as of early August:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/CA+8PC_evb-6Y3dKnAN4BN=ODEVxY5-cDb6Lc72u0j1WBtx7p1A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/

Hante hasn't posted since 2018:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/4f6223b8083ed69432493a37d4f45b69@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/

Hector Martin has a bunch of Apple-specific patches downstream in the
Asahi Linux kernel and has been looking for guidance on how to
upstream it without any real answers:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/181af6e9-799d-b730-dc14-ee2de2541f35@xxxxxxxxx/

There's also speculation that the Raspberry Pi people have downstream
patches too, but I haven't been able to find anything concrete in a
very brief search.

Thanks for the research, that is helpful.

Finally, the Cypress / Infineon people appear to be uninterested in
discussing the driver.

I think it's pretty safe to say that this driver is nearly
unmaintained by Broadcom, definitely unmaintained by Cypress /
Infineon and Arend is unable to answer questions relating to anything
beyond the code as-written.

Kalle, should this driver get orphaned?

We definitely need to consider that but let's first wait for Arend to
comment.

Using my personal email account to comment. Broadcom has pulled away most resources from the brcm80211 drivers as there is no business interest for it and it turned into a one-fifth man show as I was granted to work one day a week on brcm80211. Nice theory but in practice other work always takes priority. So "nearly unmaintained" is no exaggeration. I probably can not meet the expectations some people in the community have regarding driver maintainers, but I can still review patch submissions although I should keep a better eye on the list to do that. It would not be my choice to abandon brcm80211, but if my contributions are considered insufficient than I will accept that fact.

Ever since Infineon took over Cypress wifi business things turned quiet soon. Their website still claims brcmfmac is the driver to use. Earlier this year I did have contact with them to hear whether they were committed to the driver. At least I got an answer, but not much more than that.

Regards,
Arend




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