[CCing the regressions list] On 25.09.23 21:03, Johannes Berg wrote: > On Mon, 2023-09-25 at 14:39 -0400, Antoine Beaupré wrote: >>> Did that patch help? >> >> I haven't tried, to be honest. It's been years since I compiled a >> kernel, so I haven't actually seriously considered it. But I can >> definitely put that on my list if it would be useful for you! > Heh ok. Well we can also try it I guess. Or reason our way through it, > but I'm pretty sure something like that should be done here. > >>> Yes, you can ... but I mean, we still do want to consider this a bug, I >>> think, since we explicitly built the thing to load the older firmware. >>> It just gets _far_ less testing. >> >> Got it, happy to play guinea pig a little further if that's useful. > Well you might want to go for the extra stability instead :-) I'm kind > of thinking along the lines of "if you can download the next wifi > firmware with the current one, that's probably good enough". :) Well, that's not how Linus wants things to be, as due to this "no regression" rule things should continue to work if people update the kernel without updating linux-firmware (as also explained in Documentation/driver-api/firmware/firmware-usage-guidelines.rst). That's what I though when I saw that message initially, but I thought: well, not worth a comment, the reporter apparently doesn't mind that much. But since then I saw more and more reports that looked related to my untrained eyes (and thus might not be related at all!). https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217894 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217894#c6 (same ticket) https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217963 https://lore.kernel.org/all/f6448719-14e2-4962-ac3d-1be3c19156ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ Gregory, Johannes, is there something wrong here with 6.5.y? If yes: is anything already been done to improve the state of things? Ciao, Thorsten (wearing his 'the Linux kernel's regression tracker' hat) -- Everything you wanna know about Linux kernel regression tracking: https://linux-regtracking.leemhuis.info/about/#tldr If I did something stupid, please tell me, as explained on that page.