On Thursday 18 September 2008 20:23:21 Ivo van Doorn wrote: > On Thursday 18 September 2008, Michael Buesch wrote: > > On Thursday 18 September 2008 20:10:35 Ivo van Doorn wrote: > > > On Thursday 18 September 2008, Michael Buesch wrote: > > > > On Thursday 18 September 2008 19:48:27 Ivo van Doorn wrote: > > > > > Well no actually, when the radio state (software rfkill state in your words) > > > > > > > > No, "radio state" is _not_ "software rfkill state" in my words. > > > > It's an independent state. > > > > The actual physical radio state is a combined state of the two sw and hw state bits. > > > > If either bit blocks the radio, it's physically blocked. We cannot toggle the hw bit > > > > from software. > > > > > > Ah ok. In that case b43 should do: > > > > > > send HW_BLOCK when the hardware rfkill state is set to block > > > send SOFT_BLOCK when the software rfkill state is set to block > > > > > > But it shouldn't (and that change was the start of this discussion) send SOFT_BLOCK > > > when mac80211 disabled the radio. > > > > I'm kind of confused. You say one thing and revert it right in the next sentence. > > Ehm now you are confusing me. > You state that software rfkill state is not the state as requested by mac80211. Nono. I will try to explain it once again. It's really easy. Think of b43 having two independent registers for rfkill. (the actual hardware is different, but that doesn't matter. It's a driver internal implementation detail). One of these registers is readonly and it does indicate the physical rfkill button state. If that register indicates BLOCK, we can't do anything about it. The radio is blocked. However, we can still write to the second register and turn the radio off through that, too. We can also write to the second register to turn the radio on, _but_ it won't physically turn on until the physical button is pressed and the first register changes to Unblocked. So you say that rfkill should only be notified about changes in the first read-only hardware intication bit? If that's the case, it would be possible to turn the radio off through mac80211 calls (using the read-write register), but still have rfkill think it's unblocked. -- Greetings Michael. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireless" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html